You can take the Kinja out of Gawker, but you can't take the Gawker out of Kinja, apparently

"Bourbon&JellyBeans" (bourbonandjellybeans) 09/18/2016 at 11:41 • Filed to: None

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Seriously. I used to like other subblogs like io9 and Gizmodo. Now that Gawker’s former writers are writing for other blogs, it seems like Gawker’s ilk is leaking into blogs like the ones above mentioned. Case in point:

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What the fuck does io9 have to do with people getting bent out of shape about the color of a children’s costume ?

And what does Gizmodo have to do with a news story about a bomb in Manhattan with an obligatory mention of Donald Trump?

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Give us articles actually related to the subblog you’re posting it on or write somewhere else. It’s almost as if Gawker’s agenda will be pushed whether there is a Gawker or not.

DipodomysDeserti > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 11:50

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Unfortunately, you’re not a special little snowflake. As such, the Internet isn’t tailored to your liking. Watch some football, the give us a rage post about players kneeling during the anthem. STICK TO SPORTS!

random001 > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 11:52

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I totally agree with you

BorkBorkBjork > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 11:58

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The worst part is how forced both of those things were. I want my internet outrage to be genuine!

LongbowMkII > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 11:59

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They need a new general blog. Oh and fire Jordan Sargent.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 11:59

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He does have a bit of a point though. What other profession can you be hired to do a certain job, and then not do it?

Think about school. If your homework in English was to write an essay about Catcher in the Rye, and you wrote one on Huck Finn instead, you would get an F.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 12:01

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What? Never did I say that the authors should only write about what I want to read. I did and do expect, however, that articles be relevant to their respective blog. Is that really a special-snowflake-level request? Also, football is as interesting to me as watching paint dry.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > LongbowMkII 09/18/2016 at 12:02

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Fuck that guy.

Anima > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 12:02

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You go to certain sites for certain content. Now if that site’s content suddenly changes, I think you are in your right to have an opinion about that.
Best thing to do is just not click on those links or find another source of content. In the end they will do what gets them the most clicks and makes them the most money.

The great thing about the internet is that it IS tailored to your liking as you have a very large pool of sources to pick from.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > BorkBorkBjork 09/18/2016 at 12:03

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Image captured from Goatboy live feed.

DipodomysDeserti > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 09/18/2016 at 12:05

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These guys are writers. If they’re writing what their editors want, then they’re doing their jobs. If the stuff is being published, then it’s what their editors want. Is this a real question, or do you not understand how writing jobs work?

Once you're out of high school, you'll realize that real jobs don't operate like school.

dogisbadob > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 12:06

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Gizmodo, Jezebel, and Deadspin have almost always been troll blogs (as was Gawker).

Hopefully those same blogs will have Gawken counterparts soon.

whoarder is tellurium > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 12:06

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I knew it would happen. I bet its some sort of secret directive from Denton.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 09/18/2016 at 12:07

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That’s my point exactly.

DipodomysDeserti > Anima 09/18/2016 at 12:07

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Hit the nail on the head with that second paragraph.

boxrocket > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 12:08

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You’re not wrong, and it’s fairly repulsive, especially when they try to worm the agenda into other works. Even some of the Jalopnik works sneak in little tidbits, be it a wholly-unnecessary jab at Trump, or a perceived skin-color reference for an automaker’s new product’s target audience, and so much more.
I’m genuinely hoping Univision is only giving these writers a short time with the “new gawker” until they find other employment at the type of smut magazine they endeavor to emulate

Bourbon&JellyBeans > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 12:11

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You’re pretty quick with the ad hominem jabs aren’t you? Could it be that the editor’s aren’t doing a satisfactory job as well? The only reason that any of these blogs exist is readership. So strip away your readership and do you have editors? Authors? No, not for long at least. Believe it or not, I think that a blog’s readership ought to express disdain over said blog not putting out relevant content. Crazy thought, but it’s mine none the less.

BorkBorkBjork > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 12:30

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Ugh, facial hair, how prole...

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 12:35

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Then let’s think of a restaurant. If it’s an Italian restaurant and you’re an Italian chef, but the boss all the sudden wants you to make Asian food. Even if you make good Asian food, that’s not what any customers came to your Italian restaurant for.

When you start moving far away from the point of the blog you lose readers. When you lose readers you become out of a job. Loss of readers is how these sites close and lose all authorship.

Xyl0c41n3 > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 12:48

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ILY. :)

DipodomysDeserti > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 09/18/2016 at 12:57

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You pay to eat at a restaurant. Reading these blogs is free. You're having a really hard time grasping this.

AkursedX > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 13:25

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I pretty much expected that this would happen. But some of the cross-sharing is really getting out of hand and its starting to get kind of annoying.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > BorkBorkBjork 09/18/2016 at 13:44

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I know, right? *grabs shaving cream*

Bourbon&JellyBeans > AkursedX 09/18/2016 at 13:45

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Cross-sharing simply doesn’t need to exist. We have access to all of the blogs. We don’t need shit from one blog reposted onto another.

Urambo Tauro > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 14:10

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Cross sharing is fine IMO, as long as there’s still enough relevance. (And there needs to be a substantial amount of relevance too. I don’t want to see Celebrity gossip on Gizmodo just because they happened to use some form of social media technology .)

I think that the article in question ought to be published to whichever blog has the most relevance first. Like motorsport articles on Deadspin: I think they should get posted to Black Flag first, then shared to DS.

Other posts are harder to place, like articles about autonomous cars. Should they go to Gizmodo because it’s technology, or to Jalopnik because it’s transportation? That’s a tough call.

Berang > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 14:49

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Luckily none of those people got sent to Jalopnik.

I think.

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 14:50

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Not exactly. And I’ve worked for publishers before. It would be great if editors only got what they wanted...

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 14:54

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If it’s not interesting, it’s not interesting, what it costs is beside the point.

I hate when people pull this non-sequitur. Also, indirectly, everybody who clicks pays for the content.

DipodomysDeserti > Berang 09/18/2016 at 14:56

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My brother and wife are both writers for various newspapers and websites, and my brother is an editor for a local newspaper. If you aren’t writing what they want, they will stop paying you to write. It ain’t rocket science.

DipodomysDeserti > Berang 09/18/2016 at 15:01

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Well, this kid doesn’t find football interesting (which is the most lucrative sport in the US) so suffice it to say that what he finds interesting isn’t indicative of what others find interesting.

No, advertisers pay for the content. You pay nothing when you click. If you have an ad blocker, you aren’t even helping to bring in the advertisers.

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 15:06

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As a writer with a vested interest, of course you’d think that. As an editor, your opinion might be different...

I’d also think anybody who believes they’ve always brought their editors exactly what they wanted to be extremely conceited, or at least to have a very smarmy, deceitful editor.

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 15:09

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Oh shit! Did you say you don’t find football interesting? How dare you! You can watch it on TV for free! No complaints!

DipodomysDeserti > Berang 09/18/2016 at 16:24

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Yeah, you're not actually listening to anything I'm writing.

DipodomysDeserti > Berang 09/18/2016 at 16:25

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That's not what I said at all, but nice try!

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 16:26

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Well, people tend to read writing, not listen to it. ¯\_()_/¯

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 16:28

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What I wrote, I wrote for free. You’re not allowed to not like it.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 16:44

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What about ESPN then?

ESPN starts writing about restaurants instead. Would you keep reading?

I don’t know what’s so hard for you to understand.

wiffleballtony > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 17:43

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They’re low on content and they’re falling back on their old friend, click bait.

DipodomysDeserti > Berang 09/18/2016 at 17:53

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If I complained about the content you freely provided to me, I'd sound like an idiot.

DipodomysDeserti > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 09/18/2016 at 17:54

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You have to pay to watch ESPN. Are you drunk, or is this just really hard for you to grasp?

And if ESPN could make money with cooking shows, they'd air those instead of sports. That's the way the world works.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 18:44

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I’m not a kid, kid.

DipodomysDeserti > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 18:46

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I call everyone kid. Only the deficient take offense, old man.

You can call me a kid all you want. I’ve been around the world a few times, delivered both my daughters, seen friends die, and still think of myself as a kid. Hopefully I'll never view the world like some dried up, crusty piece of flesh.

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 18:50

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But you’d sound like (and probably be) a jackass if you claimed people aren’t allowed to complain about free content because it is free .

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 18:51

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And you don’t understand that the price has no intrinsic relation to the quality.

Holy shit.

IanZ - limited-slip indifferential > Bourbon&JellyBeans 09/18/2016 at 19:09

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That “brownface” article was one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read. I had expected them to have painted a white guy brown for promotional materials or something. But nope, it’s a costume for children. Although it can be puzzling as to why it’s there, I don’t give a h*ck about crossposting, because I can just not click on it.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2016 at 19:16

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I’m just gonna stop talking with you because you are just being an arrogant ass now.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Berang 09/18/2016 at 19:16

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I see why you left for a bit. Some people here lately fucking suck

DipodomysDeserti > Berang 09/18/2016 at 21:31

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I never said he’s not allowed to. I just think you sound ignorant complaining about it thinking they’ll give a shit.

DipodomysDeserti > Berang 09/18/2016 at 21:36

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Price has no instrinsic to quality? Right oh, buddy. Enjoy your Timex watch and Sketchers shoes. You should write articles for Jalopnik. Why buy a Mercedes when you can buy a Versa for an eighth of the price.

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/19/2016 at 02:59

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-Oscar Wilde.

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/19/2016 at 02:59

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Well you’re apparently not one to judge such things.

yamahog > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 09/19/2016 at 06:58

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Don’t you folks have somewhere else to whine into an echo chamber about the alleged “decline of Oppo and zomg my life is literally falling apart as a result?” I suggest you avail yourself of it.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > IanZ - limited-slip indifferential 09/19/2016 at 09:18

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What happened to persevering? Instead, we get this. People being offended over a children’s Halloween costume . Do I need to repeat that? Grown adults. Are offended. By a costume. A costume worn by people who don’t even know what “brownface” is.

Berang > DipodomysDeserti 09/19/2016 at 16:13

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Not what you said at all? Ok.